Jan. 1, 2026

Growth Makes Withdrawals Before It Makes Deposits

Send us a text Growth feels glamorous right up to the moment it sends the bill. We open up about the hidden price tags—time, energy, comfort, even identity—and why those early withdrawals are proof you’re headed in the right direction, not signs you’re failing. Through a candid story of stepping away from a successful collaboration to build a certification from the ground up, we unpack what it takes to stop relying on someone else’s system, take ownership, and design a method you can stand be...

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Growth feels glamorous right up to the moment it sends the bill. We open up about the hidden price tags—time, energy, comfort, even identity—and why those early withdrawals are proof you’re headed in the right direction, not signs you’re failing. Through a candid story of stepping away from a successful collaboration to build a certification from the ground up, we unpack what it takes to stop relying on someone else’s system, take ownership, and design a method you can stand behind.

You’ll hear how confidence often lags behind competence, why results rarely show up first, and how to judge progress by capability instead of instant revenue. We share practical ways to build foundations that last: tight feedback loops, clear teaching frameworks, and environments that invite real growth. If you’ve ever wondered when to leave stability, how to push past the dip, or how to know whether the pain is productive, this conversation gives you a simple lens: growth makes withdrawals before it makes deposits.

From there, we turn to momentum. Once you’ve paid the upfront costs, keeping momentum becomes easier when you reduce transitions, codify your process, and schedule deliberate stretch so comfort doesn’t creep back in. Expect straight talk about risk, simple tools to make progress visible, and questions to help you decide what to leave behind and what you’re ready to claim next.

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Chapters

00:00 - The Price Of Growth

00:43 - Leaving Comfort For Progress

01:33 - A Coach’s Story Of Letting Go

02:36 - Confidence, Control, And New Identity

02:52 - From Compounding Growth To Momentum

03:00 - Foundations Before Results

Transcript
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I think every coach loves the idea of growth until it starts costing them something.

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Whether it's time, energy, relationships, comfort, but that cost is usually the sign that you're on the right path.

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Think about a time where growth asks more of you than you actually expected.

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What did you actually have to let go of?

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And what did you gain after you made that trade?

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So we know that growth always costs comfort first.

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And what's crazy is as you keep growing, what was once uncomfortable is now comfortable.

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And you have to keep stretching yourself.

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But every level, you have to leave something familiar behind.

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And when it comes to growth, the reward isn't instant.

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It's revealed in hindsight.

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That's why today's quote is growth makes withdrawals before it makes deposits.

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So let me ask you a question.

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For you, when was it that you felt like you had to leave something in order to move forward?

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So many of you guys uh might know this, but previously to us starting our high impact mastery academy, I used to teach with my mentor, where we co-created a life and performance certification.

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And I really loved to be able to do that.

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He excelled when it comes to marketing, to sales, and to coaching.

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I excelled when it comes to putting together systems, teaching, coaching, getting into the environment, being able to show people how to lean into it, how to grow, getting feedback, those kind of things were my specialty.

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And we worked really, really well together.

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But I noticed that at some point I was starting to rely on him in a lot of areas where, in fact, if I had created my own certification, it would be me taking that next step.

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And I always know that I learn more from leaning in, from taking ownership, and from pushing myself a little bit further.

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And so after about three and a half years, I noticed I wasn't pushing myself as much.

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And so, in order for me to move on, I had to leave that.

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And when you leave that, you leave whether it's stable income, a system that you've already created, those kind of things and create your own.

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That's something that for me was kind of nerve-wracking in the beginning.

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Like, am I going to be able to succeed and do this on my own?

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Now, since I've been able to see that yes, and as a matter of fact, having that total control over the things that we teach and train and how we do that just feels amazing, but it didn't feel amazing in the beginning.

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I still had some hints of lack of confidence of can I do this on my own?

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And that's what I had to leave behind.

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And when I was able to leave that behind, I was able to create something else entirely different.

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But it got me to grow to an entirely different level.

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Feel like my identity changed again.

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Now I know I kind of talked about this on a higher level, but we see this all the time, even from new coaches who join our certification.

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They invest their time, their money, their energy, and the results don't come up front.

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But those sessions are what really creates their foundation.

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And once you understand that, you stop fighting it and start flowing with it.

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And that's when real growth begins to compound.

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Which is why next we need to talk about momentum.

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Because once you build it, it's so much easier to keep it if you know these next few strategies we're going to share with you instead of losing it and having to rebuild it again.

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We'll share that with you in the next episode.